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MY THOUGHTS FOR SAINTS ROW 4
3 years ago  ::  Nov 30 2011 - 10:03PM
Posts: 211 Joined: Nov 2, 2011

PLEASE NEGATE THIS THREAD IVE SCRAPPED THE IDEAS I HAD AND AM REWRITING THE WHOLE THING 


THE LINK BELOW IS MY NEW THREAD PLESE VIEW THAT 


saintsrow.com/community/go/thread/view/1...(new_and_improved)

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3 years ago  ::  Nov 30 2011 - 10:29PM
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Two things, we need to get your ideas to volition, and the radio part was funny. If they put that in they should either make pierce rip it out like you said or make him grab a mac-10 looking gun off of the dashboard and frantically spray the whole clip into the radio

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3 years ago  ::  Dec 1 2011 - 12:43AM
Posts: 108 Joined: Nov 17, 2011

Great ideas man!  Though it would be nice if you'd seperate your sentences so they'd be easier to read.  Anyways, i'd want the new city to be based on Jacksonville(which is the largest city in the U.S. in terms of area and population, just so you know)it's a pretty fascinating and diverse city, (see what I mean here en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neighborhoods_of_J...) I can totally picture SR4 taking place there. 

Your story sounds pretty good so far, i'd like to see Donny working as a mechanic for one of the opposing gangs, only this time you manage to convince him to join The Saints by saying that it's what Lin would've wanted him to do.  Also, i'd want to see Benjamin King return, you tell him that Dex was the one that killed Julius, so he decides to join you in order to get revenge.

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3 years ago  ::  Dec 1 2011 - 1:15AM
Posts: 144 Joined: Nov 21, 2011

@Chevyguy


good outline let me outline what i think is good and not good.


Good


-glad to see dex back and i love the confrentation between dex and gat and boss, should make for a great cinamatic, but i think that the confrentation should be saved for latter in the game(dex is a b**h and would not show is face until he strikes remember how he played you in SR2) also i would give some more satisfation to the player after tracking him down.


-like the return of troy i dont think that the boss and gat need to be that violent towards troy, at this point troy is probabliy on the saints payroll since they control stillwatter, that is not to say that gat and boss can blackmail or argue with troy to help them.


- the barbbie girl thing was hilarous lol


- the mission paceing (or slowing down the rate of the story) is a good idea, i thought that was an huge problem in Sr3 and i think it will make a longger more fullfilling gameplay experince.


not good-


i see some problems with the charecthers that were in SR3, if SR3 was an movie then those charecters technaialy did not exist or if they did exist they would have to be reintroduced to the real world version of themselfs.(there would be an logic gap if SR3 was an move then you are techconaly starting from the end of SR2)


- also the i belive that the logic of dex making the desion to tuen the church into a tourist trap and leting the otehr gangs take back the city is a tough sell to the audiance and seems forced, i dont belive that dex could have had all that power to make that happen he would have had to been tha mayor or some one in the government to make that happpen. (although here's an simmulier idea maybe a bit more beliveable, latter in the story when dex is confrunted he reveles that he knew that aiesha was still alive after she faked her death and sold her out to the roain for an absurly low amont of money)


good work chevyguy two more things


as for the new location i suggested in my storyoutline, i  suggested that it be a city simulier to Las vegas/ dallas with an dessert theame (LV is Sin city the saints would fit right in, dalles could also go with an outlaw theme)or a city like miami/New orelens with a tropic theme (both are huge party city with lots of drugs another good fit)


also i wanted to ask you chevyguy for permsission to post my story outline again on this thread( i think it may give people some more ideas) but i do not want to steel your thunder or step pn your toes.


good work i look forward to the next post


 


 

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3 years ago  ::  Dec 1 2011 - 10:03AM
Posts: 124 Joined: Nov 12, 2011



i see some problems with the charecthers that were in SR3, if SR3 was an movie then those charecters technaialy did not exist or if they did exist they would have to be reintroduced to the real world version of themselfs.(there would be an logic gap if SR3 was an move then you are techconaly starting from the end of SR2)




I agree except I guess there is a possibility that these guys were already trusted members of the saints and the MC just picked them to help out with the movie. Doing that would also allow them to keep their skills (everyone in the film plays what they actually are) and allow for some recharacterization (give angel some life/personality explain that he couldn't get into the reading lines thing; Zimos is like WTF why they make the black guy autotuned all the time, I don't do that do I; Kinzie's like they made me a nerd--everyone looks at her..."You are").

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3 years ago  ::  Dec 1 2011 - 1:10PM
Posts: 33 Joined: Oct 25, 2011

just an idea but maybe kinzie and matt could get together and cause oleg reveals that he has feelings for kinzie towards the end of SR3, matt gloats about it infront of oleg, and then cowers like a **** when oleg advances on him (just a sort of comedic input in a cutscene) or oleg and kinzie could just get together? :L

Josh: You're robbing a bank dressed as...yourselves?
Gat: Hell yeah, who don't wanna be Johnny Gat?!
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3 years ago  ::  Dec 1 2011 - 4:05PM
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i see some problems with the charecthers that were in SR3, if SR3 was an movie then those charecters technaialy did not exist or if they did exist they would have to be reintroduced to the real world version of themselfs.(there would be an logic gap if SR3 was an move then you are techconaly starting from the end of SR2)




I agree except I guess there is a possibility that these guys were already trusted members of the saints and the MC just picked them to help out with the movie. Doing that would also allow them to keep their skills (everyone in the film plays what they actually are) and allow for some recharacterization (give angel some life/personality explain that he couldn't get into the reading lines thing; Zimos is like WTF why they make the black guy autotuned all the time, I don't do that do I; Kinzie's like they made me a nerd--everyone looks at her..."You are").


what you say is true but if the writer choses this path he must make sure that how these  new memebers came in to the fold or else it will leave a gap in the story and might casue confusion and leave the player with an WTF moment, i would like to keep some of the chareters from SR3 but when you go with the SR3 movie ending you are tearing down most of the story from SR3. i just dont want there to be any fealing of empteyness of WTF fealing about the story like therer was in SR3.


good thought mrDrace.

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3 years ago  ::  Dec 1 2011 - 4:34PM
Posts: 132 Joined: Oct 3, 2011

This was actually good. 


It was a little rocky toward the end and I (even though a lot of people stated it before) like the idea that the events in SRTT being a movie and that they ALL end up on Jane's talk show. 


I personally dont see the WHOLE game being about chasing after Dex.  I can see maybe 1/4 of the game being about him but not the whole game.  I also can't really see the Saints taking over another city with multiple games...or actually...I can



After beating SR1+ 2 the civilians aways talk about how the Saints "saved Stilwater".  Since they are movie star celebrities now, I can picture someone calling the Saints to "save" their city.  (Bit cheesy though)


But I do see the events of SRTT just being a movie.  Something about the Killbane ending hints me to that.  And if you think about it...there would be NO sequal if they choose Shaundi, Viola, and Burt dying as the correct cannon ending.  Besides, they did have a picture of Killbane wearing a purple mask standing besides the saint a long with that he was working with MC in the movie


Although this was a GREAT script, its sad to know that they wont use it and will probably cume up with something else :/

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3 years ago  ::  Dec 1 2011 - 5:44PM
Posts: 144 Joined: Nov 21, 2011

PART TWO:


The boss takes the files from pierce and says (laughing her ass off) cmon matt & kinzie have some info for us. So her pierce and josh all take the elevator down in the elevator josh asks her if she will tell anyone them him and pierce were singing. Before she responds the elevator door opens. We all walk to the office where kinzie and matt are arguing about some high tech satellite program and the fact that her calculations are off by .00000000000000000001. The boss then says do I have to put you two in time out? They both respond as josh is scratching his head and pierce is still mouthing the lyrics to im a Barbie girl behind the boss’ back using his fist as a microphone. Then kinzie explains what they have found out about how dex got involved in ultor and became the head of security also how his masako squads received their almost military-like training. Johnny then walks in and looks at the monitor and asks the boss if they can talk. Her and Johnny both walk downstairs to the bar. He asks if she is sure about going after dex and why he can’t solve the problem with a rocket launcher. She says its not going to be that easy because if it was that piece of $% would be dead already. Johnny laughs and says he misses the old days hanging around the old church him troy Julius and the rest chilling out drinking beers and shooting the breeze. Then he says hell I remember when you first came to us scrawny little weak and pathetic and to see you (the boss) now I gotta say I don’t think I would’ve ever ran with any other gang (Im thinking about giving Johnny a little more personality make him feel like a real person) and im damn glad to serve with you. The two shake hands and she says to him Johnny you’re the best god@%m lieutenant I could’ve asked for. Shaundi oversees this and says to them it looks like you two have the deepest respect for one another. The boss then says that she would take a bullet for any member of her crew. (Im also kicking around the idea of giving ALL of the characters more personality to make them feel real) Shaundi then smiles at the boss and says thanks im glad I have you to watch my back (hell we rescued her from her hippie dreadlock boyfriend veteran child in sr2) end cutscene. The next storyline mission has us and Johnny driving around stilwater bored so Johnny opens the glove box and draws out two submachine guns he hands one to the boss and ask her how about one last time in stilwater??. Smiling she says yes Johnny you know me too well, Before I Forget by Slipknot comes on the radio. She turns the volume up and floors it. We are tasked with causing trouble shooting whatever we see. QUE TYPICAL SAINTS ROW SILLYNESS we see a parade of penguin mascots followed by huge float of a penguin so they both nod to each other and shoot the thing up (conveniently placed pyrotechnic charges inside blow causing a huge explosion. We then are tasked to run over the marching band. After doing so Johnny says (laughing) that was fun brings back old times then we drive past a statue of dane vogel (as a memorial) Johnny gets out and pulls a rocket launcher from the trunk and blows the statue to hell. We then drive around town doing so. This triggers a notoriety level of 4 so he tells the boss to gun it.(he dukes of hazards his way in through the window) We run full speed from the cops  we then reach a bridge with a swat blockade a conveniently placed car carrier with the ramp down sits there and we fly off the ramp off the bridge into the drink. Naturally we jump out of the car and deploy our parachutes. We then pull out our guns and start shooting the cops (this is saints row after all) after doing so we both land on a speeding yacht passing under the bridge and make our getaway. A few days later we get a call from pierce to hurry up or she is going to miss the party. ( I had the idea of a saints going away party as they will be leaving stilwater to go after dex) The party is being held in the airport hangar we purchased in sr2 (hell its big enough and kind of cool). Shaundi calls the boss asking to come pick her up from the tv studio (she just got done wrapping up shooting the second season of her show). So we go get her. In the car on the way down to the airport shaundi starts to ask the boss about Johnny and how close him and aisha were and the fact that she worries about him sometimes (again I had the idea of shaundi sort of replacing aisha). The boss answers so then shaundi asks us about how bad does she want to get dex back and at what cost? The boss asks shaundi why she is asking so many questions. Shaundi says shes just curious. We get to the hangar (tons of cars parked out front of it). Que cut scene of the whole gang partying under purple lights with the dance music playing. We are greeted at the door by oleg who hands us a couple drinks and says i dont know how to say this any other way comrades lets party. Not too long after the boss jumps on the stage where the dj is spinning records and has him kill the music. She says over the microphone to her gang listen up everybody. I know we own stilwater AGAIN and im damn proud to have all of you here tonight havin a good time. She then tells them that the saints will be leaving stilwater and are going to ******** (whichever city dex is hiding in). She then raises her drink and yells SAINTS YOU KNOW WHAT TIME IT IS!!!!!! The whole gang yell in unison ITS OUR TIME NOW LETS GET THIS S@$T STARTED!!!!!!!!!! Everybody then raises their drinks then propose a toast they all say in unison again TO YOU BOSS!!!!!!! Then they all down their shots applauding and clapping.


End cutscene and ACT I


part three will be posted tomorrow


my thoughts on part two


the good-


 - ilike the peguen parade ideas is good and would make for a good level (perhaps to justify blowing up the penguen parade, peirce had mentioned in SR3(look in the challenges section of the saints book under the masscott challenge) that he hates masscotts so peirce conplains about the masscotts so johney and boss decide to take them out for fun)


-i like the attempt to give the charecthers more personality and life, thats the first step in my opion to makeing the story better


-not good


- i am a little concerned that in part one and part 2 that the story is a bit long and deleys the player from geting to the game play but on the other hand its a lot better then haveing missing parts in the story.


good work chevyguy keep it up


also two more things that are a bit off topic


- i have started a foundation to keep shaundi in the saints row series on facebook please conceder likeing


www.facebook.com/beth.a.gorman#!/pages/T...


-also i am starting an new thread of my storyout line and i would apprecate input too


saintsrow.com/community/go/thread/view/1...


thx 

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3 years ago  ::  Dec 1 2011 - 5:58PM
Posts: 124 Joined: Sep 17, 2011

Mind if I help pitch in?


 


Maybe the opposing gangs for SR4 are some sort of combined forces of various gangs and crime organizations, backed by rivals of the Syndicate? The reason for their alliance is that they view the Saints as becoming TOO powerful and need to be eliminated.

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