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Terrible framerate while driving on high-end...
2 years ago  ::  Jul 16, 2012 - 5:00PM #621
Cadefoster
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Bought SR3 a few days ago during the steam sale and just wanted to thow my hat into the ring among all the the others with performance problems.  Ultra setting is only giving me 35-60 frames a second, with the worst drops comming when driving.  Lowering setting/resolution does little to improve things.  Game looks awsome otherwise, it's a shame so many can't fully enjoy it.


Win 7 64


i7-870 3.0gz


GTX 560ti x 2 SLI


12 Gigs ddr 3

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2 years ago  ::  Jul 17, 2012 - 10:19AM #622
Halek
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Bought this game recently and I can't even reach 20 fps at low. This is infuriating since I can run almost every other game out there smoothly at medium.



Never buying a game from these guys, I'd rather burn my money just for the sake of it.

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2 years ago  ::  Jul 17, 2012 - 1:46PM #623
szer0ne
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Just bought the game on the Steam Summer Sale. I've got the same problem as everyone else here.


Choppy framerate right off the bat when playing the intro mission. Doesn't matter what settings I choose. It seems to let up a little bit when running DX 9 windowed with low rez, but my machine should be able to run the game on ultra, or atleast that is what the game choses for me.


I've updated both the BIOS and GPU with no effect what so ever.


I've tried playing for a while to see if the choppyness would subside, but after 15-20 minutes I gave up, the game is simply unplayable.


Another wierd thing I've noticed. After I quit the game my computer continues to lag, scrolling webpages, playing other games (even simpler ones like The Binding of Isaac) lags just the same way as SR:TT does. I need to reboot or sleep the computer to get rid of the lag.


Specs:

  • Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.111118-2330)
  • Gigabit Z68X-UD3H-B3
  • Intel i5-2500K @ 3.30GHz
  • ASUS GeForce GTX 560Ti 448 Cores 1280MB
  • Corsair Vengeance DDR3 8Gb @ 1600MHz
  • Corsair Force 3 Series F120 120GB


SR:TT looks to be an awesome game. PLEASE fix this! I want to play... LET ME!




A quick update:


I'm in contact with THQ support. No fix yet, but I got the FPS stutter/lag to stop by changing the priority of the game binary (.exe) in task manager. High priority helped for a while. Realtime priority fixed the FPS lag permanently but after a while every sound in the game started to echo. That gets pretty annoying when you're playing a game where the whole point is to blow sh*t up.

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2 years ago  ::  Jul 27, 2012 - 8:42PM #624
BadassCyborg3000
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Thank Lord another person with an nVidia card mentioning the same issue (minus the lagging outside of the game). The problem doesn't only occurr on AMD/ATI stuff and I'd hate it for Volition to finally find a fix only for ATI/AMD people to be the only ones benefiting from it.

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2 years ago  ::  Aug 06, 2012 - 10:26AM #625
Philtastic
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Bumping to make sure that everyone new who bought the game during the Steam Summer Sale knows that their framerate issues aren't new: they've been around since launch in November, 2011. The "July update" stickied to the top of this forum is merely talk and only adds to all of the talk since launch about fixing the framerate issues. Nothing has been significantly done about them and I wouldn't keep my hopes up for a supposed fix that may or may not be actually in the works.

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2 years ago  ::  Aug 07, 2012 - 10:25AM #626
OrangestMoses
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Echoing Philtastic, this poor performance issue has been around since day 1, with nothing but vague assurances that updates are forthcoming.  Unfortunately Volition's presence has been near non-existant in this forum.  Philtastic has been literally the only person to give a **** (beyond the initial forum opening or so) about technical issues posted here.  This makes me think a few random things:  Volition is under-staffed.  Volition is in danger of being closed down upon the conclusion of their next project.  Volition is acutely aware of the root cause of these performance issues.  Volition is unable to reproduce the issues.  Volition coded the game using specialized and unreleased drivers a la id Games' fiasco with Rage.


None of that stuff is based in fact; it's all a stank-heap of assumption and frustration.  Why? Well, we're around 9 months since launch, and I had every single ****ing faith in their development direction when they assured PC gamers that they had their own specialized development department just for us special little snowflakes.  I believed this because I believed that any company capable of overseeing the PC port of Saints Row 2 must have some concept of just how wrong things can go.  I realize they technically had nothing to do with Saints Row 2's PC port's programming.  It's still their game in the end, and the statements made during developer interviews sold me, much like the poor slobs that heard Randy Pitchford's spiel during Borderlands' development.  At least that game was fixable through absurd amounts of .ini editing.


You know, all I really want is a little more transparency.  I'm perfectly aware at how bitter and vitriolic this all sounds considering that it's just another video game.  To be fair, at this rate I've given up on the game being playable, at least for my pathetic whining ass.  Here's hoping it works for whatever series of video card I pick up a few years from now.

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2 years ago  ::  Aug 11, 2012 - 8:41AM #627
Philtastic
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It does seem that the performance issues can be overcome purely through brute force as my experience going from a Radeon 5850 to a Radeon 7970 resulted in roughly the expected doubling of framerate. However, that's not saying much since I was going from 15-17 fps in problem areas to 28-33 which made it much more enjoyable... until it sometimes dips to 20-23 fps, mostly when flying... on a Radeon 7970 which, at the time, was the fastest single GPU commercially available.

Maybe in two more generations of video cards, we'll be able to hold a stable 60 fps or even just a stable greater-than-30 fps. 

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2 years ago  ::  Aug 17, 2012 - 8:02AM #628
Shaneus2k2
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Jun 5, 2012 -- 3:31PM, reizoryuu wrote:


Statusupdate?
Ok here:
Patch is not coming cause we (volition) don't care about the pc fanbase at all, we'd rather update the game with a bunch of alien billboards, trickle out some more already done DLC for outragous prices and generally just talk about enter the dominatrix in an attempt to distract people from the pletora of pc issues.
Also we removed the billboards because we can't have the pc users have something they actually enjoyed right?
Worry not though, Enter the Dominatrix will without a doubt be just as buggy; we (volition) hope you are looking forward to it!


Yeah the mythical patch isn't happening guys, it's been nearly 8 months and they haven't said anything at all.
Quite hilarious too, since Deus Ex human revolution recently got patched on some random minor issues after 10 months, they didn't have to do that cause it wasn't broken in the first place and nobody is really playing that anymore anyway, yet they did.
Volition however just ignores the pc version even exists and thus it's issues mustn't exist either. 




Hey, it looks like we can't say we haven't heard from them for a while anymore. Even though it gives us absolutely zero assurance of the progress, what the issue might be, who the problem may lay with or *anything*. And it's even more frustrating when something like Sleeping Dogs, a graphically far superior game to SR3, runs everything perfectly well across my three GPUs. It too, is a "Gaming Evolved" title, yet it seems like they've actually earned it... whereas it's still stamped on the front of SR3, yet anyone who's running more than one ATI card is having more issues than it's worth.



I don't  even know why I bother getting flustered about it anymore. The frustration isn't worth the $30 or whatever I paid for it at launch.



Also, this quote from that post is a gem:


"It's been a few months since Saints Row: The Third hit Steam and as you know an issue has come up where certain AMD/ATi GPU's are experiencing micro-stuttering and general performance drops on capable machines. This has mostly been seen with cards in the 5xxx or 6xxx range."


Few months? To echo someone on the Steam forums, it's closer to a year by my count. Another game that came out at the same time with equally as damning issues is Skyrim, but at least we could see that people were working on fixing it. For this, we've had one update from Volition since the start of the year and that's it. SMH.




If they're expecting someone like me to buy whatever iteration of this comes out next based on this experience, they're sorely mistaken.




I'll be too busy playing Sleeping Dogs to care.

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2 years ago  ::  Aug 29, 2012 - 9:57PM #629
TimRex
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Almost a year later and just vague hints that "someone somewhere at a hardware company is working on a patch for this"  because it's obviously all about multiple chipset manufacturers having problems with this game.  Can't be Volition's fault.  Odd how my other games run fine on the same hardware.  Older games AND newer games...


They've probably lost so many repeat sales after this it's kind of sad.  I for one won't be buying SR4 or any more Volition games unless they're in the bargain bin and I have nothing else to play.  I should have known better after they could never fix the PC version of SR2...but I gave them the benefit of the doubt.  The lack of effort to make the game playable is just awful.  It's absolutely horrible trying to drive around in co-op.

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2 years ago  ::  Sep 11, 2012 - 11:23PM #630
Philtastic
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So two months after the supposed "update" on this magical mystery fix which, coincidentally, occurred around the Steam sale and we still don't have a patch for the terrible framerate issues in this game. This is now roughly 10 months after the "fix" was first announced (around launch). It's one thing to announce a patch and then publicly cancel it; it's another to announce a patch and then constantly tell your community that it's still in the works when, in reality, no such thing is being done... at least, at a reasonable pace. It's possible that there's one guy at AMD who, on the off day where he's finish all of the available crosswords in the office, decides to have pity on SR3 users and dabbles a little with the graphics engine... but I'm not counting on that.

Saints Row 4 better be the greatest thing ever if I would even consider buying anything from THQ/Volition again. 

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